tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8501813829494244463.post676810484075206813..comments2023-09-25T06:43:37.778-05:00Comments on Buddy's Books and Bait: Impeachmentdewhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09994806228197136821noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8501813829494244463.post-55259827728673746602007-01-26T16:35:00.000-06:002007-01-26T16:35:00.000-06:00I outlined (above) one reason why the Dems have a ...I outlined (above) one reason why the Dems have a vested interest in avoiding the issues raised by the Downing Street memo.<br /><br />But, as a counterweight to that, some members of the GOP might have a vested interest in throwing Cheney & Co. under the bus, i.e., making it look like the Iraq debacle is wholly the product of a neo con rogue element, within the party, who lied the country into war.<br /><br />Will there be a GOP purge? And how might the naked opportunist McCain be made to lead it? Or, put another way, who and/or what is currently convincing Johnny Mac not to lead the charge? My guess is that he'd be the first to call for impeachment if enough of his big money backers for '08 come to believe that Shrub & Co. are positively cancer & must be repudiated post haste.<br /><br />By the way, the Republican members of the House Judiciary Committee are:<br /><br /><br />Hon. Sensenbrenner Jr.<br />(R) Wisconsin, 5th<br /> <br />Hon. Coble<br />(R) North Carolina, 6th<br /> <br />Hon. Gallegly<br />(R) California, 24th<br /> <br />Hon. Goodlatte<br />(R) Virginia, 6th<br /> <br />Hon. Chabot<br />(R) Ohio, 1st<br /> <br />Hon. Lungren<br />(R) California, 3rd<br /> <br />Hon. Cannon<br />(R) Utah, 3rd<br /> <br />Hon. Keller<br />(R) Florida, 8th<br /> <br />Hon. Issa<br />(R) California, 49th<br /> <br />Hon. Pence<br />(R) Indiana, 6th<br /> <br />Hon. Forbes<br />(R) Virginia, 4th<br /> <br />Hon. King<br />(R) Iowa, 5th<br /> <br />Hon. Feeney<br />(R) Florida, 24th<br /> <br />Hon. Franks<br />(R) Arizona, 2nd<br /> <br />Hon. Gohmert<br />(R) Texas, 1st<br /> <br />Hon. Jordan<br />(R) Ohio, 4thAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8501813829494244463.post-28825002015973961682007-01-26T13:41:00.000-06:002007-01-26T13:41:00.000-06:00These are the Senators who in 2002 had the spine t...These are the Senators who in 2002 had the spine to vote against shedding the blood of the people of Iraq.<br /><br />Daniel Akaka (D-HI)<br />Jeff Bingaman (D-NM)<br />Barbara Boxer (D-CA)<br />Robert Byrd (D-WV)<br />Lincoln Chafee (R-RI)<br />Jon Corzine (D-NJ)<br />Kent Conrad (D-ND)<br />Mark Dayton (D-MN)<br />Dick Durbin (D-IL)<br />Russ Feingold (D-WI)<br />Bob Graham (D-FL)<br />Daniel Inouye (D-HI)<br />Jim Jeffords (I-VT)<br />Ted Kennedy (D-MA)<br />Patrick Leahy (D-VT)<br />Carl Levin (D-MI)<br />Barbara Mikulski (D-MD)<br />Patty Murray (D-WA)<br />Jack Reed (D-RI)<br />Paul Sarbanes (D-MD)Debbie Stabenow (D-MI)<br />Paul Wellstone (D-MN)<br />Ron Wyden (D-OR)<br /><br />Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Resolution_to_Authorize_the_Use_of_United_States_Armed_Forces_Against_IraqAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8501813829494244463.post-65142940618880019352007-01-26T13:27:00.000-06:002007-01-26T13:27:00.000-06:00This ties in with your previous post regarding THE...This ties in with your previous post regarding THE question of the moment, the elephant in the room, viz, what the hell are we as a country obligated to do in Iraq?<br /><br />There are a number of lenses, or modes of analysis, through which the matter may be viewed.<br /><br />There is the method of realpolitik in which we ask what is it in the national interest to do.<br /><br />But there is also an international law model of analysis. And in order to employ it, we need to know, first of all, how to characterize the actions of our country.<br /><br />This is where the question of impeachment is potentially implicated.<br /><br />If our nation, and our leaders in particular, are guilty of launching an unprovoked war of aggression, then certain consequences flow from that crime, that is, we will have certain obligations to our victims.<br /><br />This is why it is imperative that the House commence a full-scale investigation into the issues raised by the Downing Street memo.<br /><br />We will only know how to behave vis-a-vis Iraq, when we fully understand what has been done in our name.<br /><br />I am pessimistic that this will ever happen because both the GOP and the Dems have a stake in making sure the matter remains murky and obfuscated.<br /><br />Why's that? Because it likely can be shown that, when the case for allowing the use of force against Iraq was being made, the Dems who voted for same knew that the arguments were bunk. <br /><br />Think about it for a moment. Secretary Powell spoon fed the U.N. virtually the same information (smokin gun, mushroom cloud, etc, etc.) that was given to the Congress. And, based thereon, the U.N. concluded that the case had not been made.<br /><br />My point is that the Dems were complicit; and they do not want an investigation as it might draw attention to their role in this debacle and thereby spoil their chances in '08.<br /><br />Hillary already has her plausible denials in place, initailly claiming she and her accomplices were fed bad info; but, I think she recognizes that this might easily be disproved; so she has a second line of defense: the legalistic argument that Bush went into Iraq in violation of the terms of the use of force plan that she authorized.<br /><br />I think this argument is total crap; but it will give her and the others plausible deniability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com